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bruuuno 12:16 Wed Feb 7
Where do Russian gangsters get their money from?
I'm constantly hearing of Russian billionaires who have stolen their money from the state but how exactly does this work?

I understand that when communism fell some blokes basically just strong armed their way into power companies, mining coorporatuons etc and took over the business (funny enough I know a famous dj who started his dj career in basically the same way).

But how else is it happening? Are gangsters getting a cut of taxes etc? I don't see how 25 years after the ussr fell they are still able to steal from the state

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Claret Badger 5:25 Thu Feb 8
Re: Where do Russian gangsters get their money from?

Where do Russian gangsters get their money from?

same as the tory sponging parasitic cunts bleeding our resources down to a husk in this country

they fucking LEECH

Willtell 3:00 Thu Feb 8
Re: Where do Russian gangsters get their money from?
Mer mer mer! My brother is bigger than you and he'll beat you up....
Is that how it goes Swiss?

Swiss. 2:56 Thu Feb 8
Re: Where do Russian gangsters get their money from?
Willtell

When did you lose a sense of humour? Oh yeah I've seen your joke thread. You never had one.

Willtell 2:53 Thu Feb 8
Re: Where do Russian gangsters get their money from?
FMOB - you couldn't make up such stupidity could you...?

Swiss. 2:52 Thu Feb 8
Re: Where do Russian gangsters get their money from?
Soldo

ATM? You gone all "international"

It's a Cash Point

Northern Sold 2:13 Thu Feb 8
Re: Where do Russian gangsters get their money from?
Where do Russian gangsters get their money from?


Err... ATM ?

Swiss. 2:04 Thu Feb 8
Re: Where do Russian gangsters get their money from?
And to add RA was one of the worst. he got his Oil dirt cheap

Swiss. 2:03 Thu Feb 8
Re: Where do Russian gangsters get their money from?
Yep asset stripped the natural resources. I as I understand many of them didn't even have the money needed but borrowed heavily from western banks> Of course those fortunate to tender at a remarkably reasonable price must have had some 'leverage'.

Russian officials getting large bungs and offers they couldn't refuse.

That's it in a nutshell.

DukeofDevo 9:38 Wed Feb 7
Re: Where do Midgets wearing Russian generals coats and fur hats get their money?
The original statement in the OP is that they stole their money FROM the state.

The state ARE the gangsters and the others are just the front for a massive redistribution of wealth amongst a chosen few. Russia is nothing more than a banana republic run by Putin and his cronies

Eddie B 10:50 Wed Feb 7
Re: Where do Midgets wearing Russian generals coats and fur hats get their money?
terry-h 10:27 Wed Feb 7

Fingers crossed they ruin Chelsea!

WestArt 10:40 Wed Feb 7
Re: Where do Russian gangsters get their money from?
This was a reply to NS obviously!

Agree McMafia is good.......skillfull adaption of a non fiction work. However for a real horror show, you need to read the book.

Fascinating, scary and ultimately depressing in equal measure.

WestArt 10:38 Wed Feb 7
Re: Where do Russian gangsters get their money from?
Agree McMafia is good.......skillfull adaption of a non fiction work. However for a real horror show, you need to read the book.

Fascinating, scary and ultimately depressing in equal measure.

BRANDED 10:37 Wed Feb 7
Re: Where do Midgets wearing Russian generals coats and fur hats get their money?
Putin gets a personal cut of every one of them. You couldnt even make it up.

terry-h 10:27 Wed Feb 7
Re: Where do Midgets wearing Russian generals coats and fur hats get their money?
And why do they like ruining football clubs along the way?

Willtell 10:09 Wed Feb 7
Re: Where do Russian gangsters get their money from?
Is Vladimir Putin Secretly the Richest Man in the World?

http://time.com/money/4641093/vladimir-putin-net-worth/

I read that the yacht featured in this column was paid for by Abramovich to allow him to keep his Russian investments. As others have said Socialism and Communism at work...

southwoodford 9:37 Wed Feb 7
Re: Where do Russian gangsters get their money from?
That's socialism in action, folks!

southwoodford 9:36 Wed Feb 7
Re: Where do Russian gangsters get their money from?
Upon the fall of Soviet communism state owned assets (i.e. all assets) were effectively distributed between the top party apparatchiks. It was state theft on an industrial scale engineered through bribery, corruption and brute force brute force. This led to the mafia state that Russia is today. Basically a handful of Russians stole Russia.

bruuuno 9:33 Wed Feb 7
Re: Where do Russian gangsters get their money from?
HairyHammer 2:15 Wed Feb 7

Bruuuuno 12:17 Tue Feb 6

Darby_ 8:09 Wed Feb 7
Re: Where do Russian gangsters get their money from?
If you’ve got the time to watch it this is pretty interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eO8ZHfV4fk&t=2120s

Darby_ 6:09 Wed Feb 7
Re: Where do Russian gangsters get their money from?
A billion dollars simply disappeared from the Russian space program, for example. When you control the government and there’s little or no free press, it’s easy to steal money.

Capitol Man 2:42 Wed Feb 7
Re: Where do Russian gangsters get their money from?
In the move from communism when the Russian state owned everything, to the free market, most of the assets of the states were handed out to the powerful former communist officials.

It became a bit of a game of thrones in the years after that where the most ruthless rose to the top.

Putin came in and basically came in and restored order, to a degree, where he left most of them alone if they didn’t try to take political power and instead focused on making money.

So in addition to the normal graft and such they are also given access to the nations assets. To extract oil or Nat gas, build government projects, fill government orders, all of which come at massive profit to them at the expense of the Russian people.

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